Well it, it was always interesting, you know, being at London Zoo because there were strong con had been for years strong connections with the royal family. Many of them have a very genuine interest in, in wild thing wildlife. And in the countryside especially, you can imagine with the country of states that they have Prince Philip was president of and and therefore chairman of the board of the Zoological Society of London for some years. And he and Soly Zuckerman, Lord Zuckerman, who was the secretary, this, I’m talking now about the sixties, sort of the late fifties, sixties. They were, they were very much the sort of power mongers in the, the power bees in the, in the society’s activity. So Philip was very much involved at governance level. The queen was patron of the zoo society for many years. And I’m not sure what the situation is now.