This is in 1970. And so, yes, I thought this sounds rather interesting. So I did, and it was funded by this organization called The Brook. It was called the Brook Hospital for Animals at the time that had been founded in the 1930s by the wife of the Commanding Cavalry officer, the British Cavalry after the First World War based in Cairo. Anyway, maybe we can go back to that story later. But the, the, the, the, the long of the short, the shorter part of the long is that I’ve been involved with the Brook now for 54 years, chaired chaired it in, in the UK nearly 20 years and then founded Brook USA. Now, what all that did was bring me into close contact with a lot of the senior figures in the animal welfare world, both, both in America and in Europe. And in fact, we used to meet on an annual basis, I’m talking about the CEOs of Humane Society, the us, the R-S-P-C-A in Britain, you know, the big, the big players in the welfare world.