And he, and I’d already done some work in, in Africa on what happened on the back of my involvement with the Kabul Zoo. You know, after the American troops took over Kabul, we raised funds to regenerate that zoo. And then a little bit too, with the Baghdad Zoo, there was money left over with which we, which we used to help the Cairo Zoo that I’d, I’d had long association with through another organization. And this little group of folks felt much as I did, that there needed to be this, this making of a, of a, of a better, a better community where zoo and welfare people were talking to each other on a regular basis. And so informing what Well, well, what then happened, I think I, I may have mentioned to you that I’ve been involved with an organization called The Brook for 54 years now, and the Brook is the largest international equine welfare organization in the world.
