Absolutely. But I wonder if in the end they might morph into one, again, a bit of background going back a few years at not so much a ZA big comp, but the, you probably know there is a director’s retreat every, usually every January. And I know on several occasions I and one or two others put up the idea that there might be two, maybe three levels of membership in a ZA and that each of those levels, the, the, the the if you like, the starter level would under certain conditions would then grow into the second level and ultimately into the top level. You don’t just have to, as you know, well, you don’t just have to be big to pass a ZA standards, you know, many, many very good small zoos that can come up to a ZA standards. I think when ZAA was founded, I mean I’m not very familiar, familiar with ZAA, but from what I do know, ZAA was founded largely because they, a lot of them did not feel they could come up to a ZA standards or did not want to put the resource, didn’t have the resources. And, and so ZAA formed created a a a A medium by which they could be part of, of the zoo community but not necessarily up to a ZA and, and the sad thing in a way was, and I dunno what the situation is now, the sad thing is of course that then created a them and us situation. But going back to that earlier thought, what I wonder might and maybe should happen is that, and I know ZAA are building their own standards now and they may not be quite the same as zas, but in due course could these standards be added if there’s a will to do so. So that ultimately 10 or 15 years from now, there’s actually one organization now that’s, now there are two, as you know better than I do, there’s someone like 2000 non a ZA members zoo zoo’s, collections of animals in the us I dunno what ZAA membership numbers are, but there’s still going to be an awful lot of private collections that are not in either of those organizations. So I think that, I mean, the big question I think for both organizations is because a lot of these, I think a lot of these folks, and I’ve seen it in in Europe as well, a lot of the folks that are not in the mainstream by mainstream, what I mean is well-funded large institute, mainly large institutions that have been around for a while, a lot of those folks would certainly love to be a part of that discussion.
