Yeah, there, there’s very much a tendency I think, but you know, the fact where you’ve got private individuals with the money enough to, to have their own private collections tend to be quite possessive. Now that’s not, I think because they are suspicious of government and very often don’t, they don’t want anybody else to have control over their animals. And it, I think it was quite notable with Arabian ORs that when, when the project was set, when the project to catch the last, or a few of the last remaining orx in Oman was set up, gosh, back in the fifties now, there was no recognition that there were actually pri quite a number of private collections in Arabia that, that already had, already had Arabian arts. They knew that Qatar had some, and in fact Qatar did contribute to the, I think 10 or 11 animals that went to Phoenix ultimately. And there was one from Paris, London had one and three, I think three were actually captured in the wild. But nobody understood until relatively re I’m talking about relatively 15, 20 years ago, that there were quite an array of these animals, quite a number of these animals in private collections throughout the Arabian Peninsula, particularly in Saudi where, you know, they kept things pretty, pretty close to their chest in terms of what they had. And, and of course the other problem was a lot of what they had was not Arabian ORs, but a lot of what they had were illegally obtained. And so there was a reticence anyway about partying with any of those animals For, for international programs that has changed.
