At one time, certainly in my early days in the zoo, oh, if you had a gorilla it never went anywhere else. You, you know, you had to, you know, there was no sort of no no getting together. That’s obviously changed dramatically over, over the last 30 to 40 years. And, and there there are going to be people with elephants who don’t want to part with them, but as far as I know, there is a good plan at the moment for elephant breeding, both in Europe and in the us.
