Yeah, no, I mean very often, but you don’t ask it quite like that. You, you very quickly, if you, if you, if you put the question, okay, we’re gonna need some resources, we’re gonna need some money funding to do something with this exhibit in, in a roundabout way, you can soon find out who actually they’ve gotta go to and who’s gonna have to make that decision. And it’s particularly difficult where there is, and I’ve seen it many, many times, it, it is particularly difficult where there is a lot of public pressure to do something and the leadership, wherever that may be is, you know, is not, not in tune with the public interest or indeed with the interest of, of the zoo staff, the zoo director can be quite tricky.
