Well, very, I I, what I’ve found is within the zoo, well, and indeed within the biological community, generally a lot of people cannot differentiate between what animal welfare and animal rights. And what you have is a, is a sort of spectrum of views. I’m talking about views from those outside the zoo world, from genuine animal welfare folks who, who want to see better conditions, higher standards of welfare in zoos. And I’m talking about the global picture now, not not just within the US or Europe. And then right through to the end of the spectrum where you’ve got animal rights people, some of whom, not all, some of whom are rabidly anti zoo, and you’re not gonna be able to cope with them, frankly. And I’ve, I’ve had a lot of experience of dealing with this whole spectrum over, you know, over many, many years. The folks at that end of the spectrum, the sort of rab anti zoo folks, forget, you know, don’t even be worried by them. But the trick with all of this is you find people within the animal welfare community who genuinely knowledgeable about animal welfare and what that really means.
