Absolutely, yeah. And, and there are additional ones as well. I think you, you know, most of us are dealing with boards, they’re dealing with some form of governance. And so it’s really critical that you understand that if whether you are, you know, city owned or in the case of North Carolina state owned or, or you are a private, not-for-profit with a board, you’ve got to be able to understand your role in respect to that board. The governance mechanism, in other words, as well as the ability to not only manage your own staff, but also to have to build relationships with other institutions. Not just those, but with other institutions that have a bearing on how you function. So that might be, it might be local authorities, it might be, it might be other biological institutions, it might be partners in other ways, not not just necessarily biologically or zoo oriented, but folks in your sphere of interest who you’ve also got to relate to. So there’s a wide, you know, a large group of people that you’ve, you’ve got to have a, a good sort of sense of dealing with other people. And, and you mentioned other zoos, you were in a relatively large zoo.
