Well, first of all, a good background in one of the two main knowledge bases that you really need to be a zoo director. You either, you either need to have a good biological background and, and the reason for that is, of course, that you can participate sensibly in, in the discussion of where the zoo is going. The other one, of course is a background in administration and management. My background was the biological. And so building the experience, not only of that, but also managing people over a period of years then led me in, in, in becoming, led me in, in being interested in becoming a leadership of, of a zoo itself. So obviously a knowledge, a background in knowledge doesn’t have to be everything, but it needs to be a basis in one of those two main areas. I think a knowledge, a sort of broad understanding of how the world ticks. I think it’s really important for a zoo director to travel a bit to work with folks at different social levels because you’ve gotta, you’ve gotta deal with that when you’re managing through people.
