Well, I grew up in a very rural area north of London. And in one of those sort of Georgian rectory, my father was a, an an andan priest with lots and lots of land woodland time when of course one could roam freely as a child. And my, all my family were, were Welsh farmers. And so an interest in things, biological things wild, was sort of inbuilt into me. And I chose to go to veterinary school originally I didn’t think I’d get in ’cause my equivalent to high school certificate was not terribly good. I, I was gonna go back, but went to veterinary school in the end and just at the time that I was qualifying the job as the first full-time veterinarian at Whip Snowe London Zoo’s Country station came up and that, and then it was a progression through six stages before finally running the Zoological Society of London, basically as their CEO, which included being director of both London and Whipsnade Zoos. But we’re gonna talk about all that.
