And those, I think quite rightly, the, although most zoos that are breeding for good reasons, endangered species are continuing with that, we are now seeing a lot more resources put into the messaging and the field involvement of zoos in these, in these much wider issues and particularly within their own communities. I think it comes back again to what we were saying about how can zoo people, zoo senior staff, zoo directors, get involved with other organizations. And one of those ways is to play a conservation role in helping regional, local organizations deal with some of these bigger issues that may not be a re that may not be putting money into it necessarily, but certainly putting skilled knowledge and staff in into some of those, some of those wider fields is something that zoos can do a bit more of. So it’s not doing away with the, with the endangered species breeding, it’s bringing on board acceptance of the important role of some of these much bigger issues.
