Both of Welsh, the whole family, both sides of Welsh extraction. Father was an Anglican minister, a rector in the Church of England who had a parish, started as a curate, a junior priest where I was born. And then at my age three we moved, we moved down to a, a village in the London area. Mother was a teacher, both of them from North Wales, both from farming families. And interestingly, both those families, the broad, you know, the broader family are still farming the Welsh Hills today. So they’re, these are, you know, cousins twice removed as it were, but still very much involved. And of course, having a farming background, being a, you know, being a a coming, a farming stock, that was part of the reason for being interested in the, in the, the countryside. Anyway. Tell us a little about your childhood growing up.