That’s a, you know, that’s a good question. I meant to, to look into that. There were two directors before me. One was Huff Bill Hoff. Bill Hoff, yeah. And he very much had to do, he, you know, he came out as, you know, came outta the zoo world with a lot of experience and he, he really was our, he helped a lot in the design of, of the zoo and then was with the zoo, I think quite a short three or four years, something like that. And then, and, and goodness, I should remember then, and, and I don’t know quite how it happened, but a major from the Royal Army Ordinance Corps was appointed. I think he was, he was an ex-army man. Anyway, was appointed to the directorship, but didn’t, and I, and I, i dunno, it’s easy enough for me to say it was a, an odd appointment, but never really played a very, he attended meetings. ’cause I remember meeting him, you know, years before, but never really figured anywhere in, in that sort of zoo community.