I mean, he was certainly, avid reader. Oh my God, his book collection, legendary, you know, just incredible ability to gather information from all kinds of mediums. And when we would travel, which we did quite a bit, he was so knowledgeable about zoos, and foreign countries, and wildlife in general, that traveling him was a joy. ‘Cause we ended up having great debates, and discussions, and philosophical discussions. And that’s how I learned and honed my craft was by having these discussions with him. And I used to enjoy it when we were working together. You know, we’d be together two days a week and, you know, we’d sit down and we’d have discussions about the collection, and, you know, speciation, and breeding animals, and all this stuff. I mean, it was great.
