But it was a struggle because they were like, okay, that’s your thing. It’s not our thing. You take care of the dog. And so that’s how I got started. When we moved to San Diego, we didn’t have any pets then, we finally got some pets at that point. But, you know, I do backyard stuff with butterflies, and snakes, and lizards, and things like that. And, you know, that was always kind of in the back of my head. But I wasn’t really thinking about wildlife as a teenager, young adult.
