And I said yeah, it is what I want to do. And I think I probably had one really strong mentor who wasn’t even in the animal business at all. He was actually a psychologist who had been doing some work at San Diego and we just hit it off and had a great relationship. And he worked in several departments in the zoo but he kind of pulled me aside and he said, you know, if you’re going to do this, if you are going to pursue these higher-degree levels, you’ve gotta wanna do that. It’s like nobody should be pushing you into it. It’s something that you’ve got to want to do.
