Then the day had come and Craig and I had already decided, I said I don’t want the job. It’s yours. If they want to give it to you, go for it. I said I’m happy doing what I do, I’ll be your lieutenant, I’ll be your wingman. I’ll be happy doing that. And so they appointed him, and I believe it was Director, and then they changed it to CEO and he did that for X amount of years. And then he decided time to leave. And that’s when they brought Joe Couceiro in.