What was the turning point when you said, “Hey, I think I wanna apply to this zoo, and start this different side of my career?” Well it was, it fed into my interest in doing clinical medicine and surgery, and not doing a lot of the basic research. I thought research was interesting, and I went to Hopkins to find out if that’s exact, whether I wanted to commit myself to research, it probably didn’t have as fast or as an appropriate application to the animals. You know, a lot of it was human-directed, and I just found it, again, a challenge to go out there, and look at animals, and try to figure out what you could do with them, figure out how to anesthetize ’em, so you could actually get your hands on them, and I think it was a challenge of it that kind of geared me toward the, you know, my interest in zoo medicine.