Yeah, that’ll be fine, you know, no problem.” I hung up at the phone, I’d went to the mountain, I’d gotten the information, and so I go back, give it the drug, animal went down, replaced the uterus, and having a hard time getting it totally in. And so I was by myself, so on one hand I had a syringe with oxytocin and then pitocin to constrict the uterus, and I had my other hand in replacing the uterus, and I gave it the oxytocin, which constricts the uterus, so she squeezed down on my hand with the uterus constricted, the last part of the uterus averted, and we got it done, and of course with Serilin, they sleep for about two or three days, you know, and finally she got up, did well, I think she had another calf after that. And so I didn’t think much of it, you know, feeling pretty proud of myself that we had a success, and so about two or three months later, I don’t remember the exact time, I got this phone call, “Hey Mitch, how in the hell are you doing”, he said. I said, “Fine Clint, what’s up?” He said, “Well, I’ve gotta do my first pygmy hippo, how’d that dose work out that I gave you?” Of course, and I used a few exploitatives telling him that I didn’t think it was very fair, but that was Clint. But I give him all the credit in the world, he had an idea of an appropriate dose, and it worked, and he gave me the confidence to go ahead and try to do it. And so then that, we kind of talked back and forth, and I think he went on vacation and I went to … Went over there and covered for two weeks for him, drove over and did some work, and that’s how we kind of got together, and then they opened up a job and I applied for it. And that’s how I started at the National Zoo.