It depended on financing, and defining going in the field, I was probably going into Africa at least once a year, maybe once every other year, and those years that David and I went to Africa were the golden years, we had access that is unbelievable, you couldn’t have had now, because of paperwork and politics and stuff, we’d go there, we had personal contacts with the veterinarians there, and the people and we’d just talked to ’em, and we shared common interest in some of the stuff. So they’d say, “Well, how many giraffes do you wanna do?” And “Well, we wanna do 20 lions, so we can go ahead, and do that”, and “Well, it’s just some impala stuff, we wanna try …”, we just had almost carte blanche, you know, we talked to them and they could see some of the application of it, but now, it’s just too much bureaucracy, so …