And so I went out there and I said, “Well, you know”, I just went out and started talking to him, and the Assistant Director at the time was John Moore, who was a really, was geared me to keep coming out there, and kept me interested in zoo medicine, and went on to be Director at a couple other zoos, Albuquerque and New Orleans, I think he was down there. And I went out there and first I wanted to talk to the veterinarian that was doing the work, ’cause I didn’t, you know, I was doing it for free and I didn’t wanna impose on him, or if he was part of his salary, and he greeted me with open arms.