But you know, they were just afraid to anesthetize it, because they hadn’t had the experience, so I had the Indian veterinarian scrubbing in with me, and so he worked with me on the surgery, so we just didn’t come in, you know, like Dr. Kildare or something and do it, and snap off our gloves and walk out of the operating room, it was there talking about it, “Is there any questions about, what is doing that”, and this is kind of the way I tried to work in Thailand, after every anesthesia or surgery, we’d sit down in the group and we’d write it up on the thing, what went wrong, what went right, ’cause everything can be always a little bit better, let’s think about it, what would be done differently?