I had an … No, I, well, up until when I spent three years, I’d retired from National Zoo when I spent three years, but the other 14 years where we were going over there, and helping ’em, I was on staff at National. We talked about your sojourn into the curatorial ranks, where you had kind of agreed to — way of stating it. Did you find, how did you juggle this being the Chief of the Department of Animal Health, as well as assistant, the curatorial with your …