I went to interns first, because I’d really enjoyed my internship at Angel, and I thought, you know, since we had so very few full-time veterinarians in zoos, and there seemed to always be the interest in veterinarians, especially students in zoo medicine, that I thought, “Well maybe we should be training them.” Now I was not the first, ’cause San Diego was training interns before I was, and so, but I came in I think a close second, and part of that came with, you know, as being veterinarians at National Zoo, and doing a few things, you were invited to vet schools to lecture the veterinary clubs and things on veterinary medicine, and I did that for a while, and it was kind of nice, and then I started saying, “Well I’m gonna tell these kids how neat it is to do all these things and there’s no jobs.” So, you know, I kind of had a double-edged sword. I’m gonna tell you, these neat things. You work with lions and tigers and do all this stuff, and work with great animals and stuff, but by the way, there’s no job so you’re not gonna get a job. And that was the same way with anesthesia for a while, I was telling people about, “Oh yeah, there’s this new drug, CI744, it’s great, you do everything or these, but you can’t get it.” You know, so why do you go out and you know, do that kind of stuff, it was kind of a double-edged sword, but eventually the drugs become available, and with the training programs, jobs opened up, so that corrected itself over time.