I knew that had administrative loads, and I said no. I said, I didn’t particularly want that, and about that time another shakeup occurred, because initially, he put the pathologist under Clint Gray, and Bob Sauer didn’t want any of that. So Bob Sauer turned in his resignation right away. And so we were without a pathologist for a while until I brought Dick Montale from Hopkins, who was a former colleague and roommate of mine to be a pathologist, but then right about that time, Clint was making a lot of changes and trying to, you know, Dick came, and he made a lot of changes for Dick, and was gonna be over Dick, and I sat down with this Assistant Director, I can’t remember his name, and I can picture him, and I said, “Look”, I said, “Leave Clint here. I’ve got a beautiful working relationship with him, but get Montale out from under Dick. He’s driving Dick crazy.” And I said, “I don’t wanna lose him, I don’t wanna lose him.” I said, “You know, just please do that.” And so I thought I’d talked him into it, and then the announcement came out that I was made Head of the department, you know, and I didn’t want it. And so Clint unfortunately thought that I had undermined him and I don’t think he ever forgave me of that. We remained talking, but that’s one regret I have that Clint thought I tried to undermine him to get the Head of the department, which I didn’t want.
