We had a histopath technician, and we had a pathologist, Bob Sauer. And then there was one keeper in the hospital, and then one keeper “technician”, Tom Snyder was his name. And so it was quite a bit different. I had, you know, some help, but I still didn’t have the expertise of a vet tech. And that’s again where my wife, Lana May, who worked with me at Hopkins then took a job at Baltimore Zoo as their thing, and as their technician, and then moved over and became my technician at National.