Well, at that time there was another phenomenon that was going on. It had been going on for about at least a couple of years. And that was Zoo Parade. The public ate that up. And it was one of the best PR factors for zoos in the United States, in my opinion. I think we all benefited. And Marlin was so smooth and knowledgeable, and it was great. Now, what did we really… I think that the older directors, well, Roger Conant wasn’t the zoo director, but he and I were extremely close.
