Well, I can tell you what worked for me at three different zoos, but I have to go back. I was about 18 in Galveston, Texas. There weren’t any zoos in Galveston. And I went to the Houston Zoo. And right in the middle of the Houston Zoo was a natural history museum, a beautiful place. I mean, it was small and all that, but gosh, it was something I’d never seen before. And I went there on a Saturday. And before I knew it, there were kids my age scurrying around, using keys to go through door, and obviously they were part of the operation.