Well, in my zoo lifetime, I never really had to confront that problem of people that wanted to get rid of zoos. Now, I’d have to say in some cases I’ve seen a lot of zoos that should be done away with, quite frankly. And so I would have to agree with some of those people. But maybe they don’t need to be done away with, they just need to be educated and raise their standards. You were on an accreditation program once at the zoo I had in Oklahoma City. And by the way, that program I think was really promulgated by one person, Bill Conway. And that was one of two excellent things that he initiated. The other was a species, the SSP program.
