Compared to when I started? Well. Many zoo directors do not have a good training in the arts, and sciences, and even in zoology. Somehow, at least the ones I’ve spoken to don’t demonstrate that to me. And I, maybe they just, maybe I’m missing it. Maybe I’ve talked to the wrong group, but I when I was, you said when I started in zoos, yeah. I had a good liberal education in the arts and sciences. My knowledge of natural history, of zoology was, really at that time pretty limited, but I’ve made up for it. I’ve studied, I’ve worked.