So I went to the Philippine, the Manila Zoo. I had had a letter from the director of the zoo. He wanted a job. And so I met with him. I said, “Well, why do you wanna leave this zoo?” “We haven’t been paid in six months.” So I needed elephant keeper. So here came about the next day I had about 20 CVs, very well written, neat clean paper and all of that. So I interviewed them, and they all had experience with elephants, and some had mentioned African elephants, some mentioned Indian elephants and all of that. But most of them didn’t know anything about elephants when I talked to him.