Ruther was my counterbalance on Clyde Hill. I told Ruther, you know, “I’m not gonna change.” He want Hill, I guess he didn’t have anything else to do. Now, Hill’s a very nice guy. And he and I were very friendly before this. but I just, you know, this is… My name is listed as the author. And I did, we did have a committee which did very little. Which is usual in organizations and think projects like that.
