And it was invaluable. Now, I tried to do the same thing with research. That was a form of research, what I just described. But research on I would hope behavioral, and maybe some taxonomic. I had the university, both universities were on this animal research council. And we would, anytime we had any research going on, they would report on it. We had a deal with Cape Hunting Dogs. I think she had 13 or 14 pups.
