And I had him do that for every animal that we were breeding. Well, he wanted to work, he wanted to do that. But he also was doing his doctoral dissertation on digestion by rhinos and elephants. And it was kind of intruding on him if he needed to be part of a meeting on planning something or other. But you know, you put up with so much. And Foos did an excellent job of those tables for us. And I understand they’re still following them there through three different zoo directors, since I left. The idea of, well, I’ve mentioned micromanagement, that’s terrible.