And so even though it was just ceremonial, so to speak, she was listed, she’d participate. And we used to, ne thing I used to do, Mark, and I found this to be very effective. Every Friday Kirkpatrick would come to the zoo. He was an ex-admiral. And apparently, there’s a walk, a captain’s walk on every ship or boat in the navy. Every once a week when the captain goes around, looks at things and checks for, you know, dust, and all that stuff, looks for rust. Okay, so he would come out every Friday. And I said, “Let’s get some of the trustees out here.” And we can, well, con them again.