And I didn’t see them, well, he sent me pictures. But we then, we flew him, the only way we could borrow it was to fly him and the gorilla to Oklahoma City, which we did. So then I had a female mountain gorilla. And the Makumba, beautiful male, just didn’t know he was a gorilla. And he’d beat the hell out of her. Probably, you know, Oklahoma has terrible rednecks that beat their wives, and so he’d been there too long. Snow leopard, we set up, we built a breeding area. Quote, survival area, about a 20-acre area.
