He was not with the city, he was the society. And I thought, well, it’s kind of like Fort Worth again. And he said, “Well, would you like to come to Oklahoma City?” And I said, “I’d love to come, but I’m not gonna work for the park department. I’ve already been through that. Somewhere I’ve got to learn my lesson and that’s it.” And he said, “Well, suppose we get the zoo made a department.” And he said, “Dr. Ogilvy has been talking to do this.” They didn’t like Ogilvy. And Ogilvy made some mistakes there. He also did some good things. He hired Jerry Lynch. But see at Oklahoma City, they had been, Warren Thomas was there for about five years.
