No, Mertens was the curator of reptiles at the Columbus Zoo, as I recall. And they stole him away from Columbus, to the Cleveland Zoo, so he was in two zoos. Actually, they didn’t steal him. He was fired in Columbus. And then he was fired at Cleveland. And he didn’t have a zoo to go to. Like, you know, you don’t have a pot to pee in. And a zoo person who’s really got what I’ll describe somewhere in this interview, which is a very important factor, character, Mertens somehow ended up in Dallas. And he would come over, and at that time I was designing the herpetarium.
