He went in place of him. I was replacing Roland Lindemann, who had suddenly been called overseas or whatever. And I went to Chicago to represent the game farm. My God, (chuckling) I was terrified. But I met Marlin Perkins, who was doing weekly TV show. I was assigned, assigned a job by the woman head of the AAZPA. She took care of the national business of the- Peg Dankworth. Peg Dankworth, yeah.
