I went down behind her. John, I’ll use it, use the name John, was behind me. I got pretty close to the elephant, and he gave me a shove between the shoulders with his hand. I went forward, but the elephant didn’t step on me. She moved forward a little bit, but I got up and had a word or two. He got back up outside and then walked up to the elephant again, and walked behind her. She moved ahead and got up, out out, out of the moat. And that was one of the things that we had a short and very heated discussion when we got back in the office, and I taped it.
