I walked back out ’cause somebody says else, “Every time I tried to walk into that cage, he’d grab it.” And he was strong enough. He could keep me from walking in the cage. There was a female orang on exhibit. I put him down, left him to his own devices in the kitchen, and I went up up a ladder and then called her inside the cage, and I shut it. So in other words, her exhibit cage was vacant, and she was in the cage and locked. This time I took Lawrence and walked through her door into her exhibit cage, and he let me walk through. Played with him a little bit in there. He got down and was playing with her toys in the exhibit cage, and I slipped out and locked the door.