Most guys are used to, at that point are used to seeing women either I date them, they’re my sister or my mom. You know, it’s not like oh, you can be on the same level as I have and by golly you can actually talk and walk at the same time and you might have an idea. And it might work. So yes, we did a lot of… You just did what you had to. And then sometimes if you wanted to get something across and it wasn’t, you would use a backhanded way of doing it. You might talk to them one-on-one instead of in a big group, you might mention something in the hallway to somebody of I wonder if we did something like that. Well if they came back into that meeting and said it and took credit or, you know, yeah, good idea.
