I’m not sure where they’re with lions now. We worked with the guy in, Berkeley who had the hyena colony. We worked with him on hyenas. We never did breed hyenas. And we now breed, I think jaguars have, we had a breeding program, of course when Pat was there, breeding jaguars. And now that Stella’s died, I don’t know whether they’re gonna be breeding jaguars again, but that’s, you know, you commit to the species and you know that, you know, if you have offspring, you were responsible for those offspring until you can place them. In many respects, you are Milwaukee Zoo’s unofficial historian. Mm-hmm.
