They need to, well, even even keepers, you do not have a job in a zoo where you’re not working with people. You’re always going to be working with people. You need to know how to work with people, how to, you know, whether as a collaborative or manage people. And I think most people in the zoo don’t, you know, they’re there for the animals, the colleagues are colleagues. There are ones you get along with, ones you don’t. So yeah, just personnel management skills, I think, benefit most curators. Because you get promoted from animal keeper to curator and you have, that’s it, on the job. You see what your curators did before you and how you do it.