Mm-hmm, we did, well, we did several renovations when I was there. Bruce had a very interesting way of doing animal, I mean, Milwaukee had a very interesting way of deciding what they were going to do. He was, remember, there were like four or five master plans that were done when I was there and nothing ever came to them. Boese had done a master plan that was finally completed in, I mean, it got shrunken in scale. But it was a very fast, I mean, you would say, oh, we’re going to renovate the Lion House next year and then kind of this forced march, you go visit Lion Houses and decide what you’re gonna do. And to me, if you’ve got a master plan, you’re planning all the way along and, you know, you’ve got these things you take off the shelf. Bruce said I had to go to the AZA school. They now have one on exhibit planning, and all the rest.
