Oh, yeah, I mean, not necessarily with the keepers. I mean, with elephants. The elephants at Milwaukee became very controversial. We had, this was just after Chuck started in 1990, 1991. I had three Asian elephants and one Asian elephant was getting increasingly aggressive at another Asian elephant and at the keepers. And I needed to move her out and worked with Don to find a place for her. We couldn’t find a… The only zoo that was interested in taking her was the Lowry Park Zoo and in talking to Don and investigating their elephant program, I didn’t think they could handle a problem elephant like Lota.
