They were able to get blood, blood pressure. When females were pregnant, they could do ultrasounds on the females. And so it’s been a remarkable success. And people come, keepers from all over the world come to Milwaukee to work with the bonobo keepers and how they work with it. And Gay Reinartz, who was our registrar at the time, became fascinated with the bonobos and learned about them. So when the whole divide between the Society and the zoo happened, Gay worked for the Society and could not become an employee of the zoo because she didn’t live within the county. Her husband worked for the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee and they were in charge of the Cedarburg Conservation Center that they had there. So Gay went over to become director of research at the Society.
