I forgot how many gorillas. But, so that’s how the program started. And it became, and Gay Reinartz is the reason that the bonobo conservation, the bonobo conservation project got underway. I will say two of the keepers who worked with the Bonobos learned about a training program in Texas to, training program working with the great apes. So Barb Bell and Trish Khan, who’s now the curator of primates, went to Bruce and said, “We wanna go to this training program to learn how to work with the animals and train the animals. And so they started working with the bonobos, first the bonobos, ’cause we had a large group of bonobos. And they were able to train them to do remarkable things. I mean, they can collect, they could give the animals injections, they can collect semen samples, they can collect blood samples.
