(Elizabeth sighs) Elephants, no, we had elephants, we had worked, Ed Gould had hired Don Meyer at the National Zoo to work with the keepers in setting up an elephant program. And Don was from Milwaukee, so he was also the consultant at the Milwaukee County Zoo. Elephants are a difficult species to deal with. I mean, it takes a special keeper to work with elephants and I think working with elephants makes keepers a bit odd. (chuckles) I mean, it’s really, I mean, it’s such a close relationship between the keeper and the elephant and Jim Jones, the elephant keeper I had at the National Zoo, Don said he was a natural. I mean, he would go up to Nancy, our big female and he kinda mumbles something and Nancy would do whatever Jim wanted. I mean, and so when Jim retired, it was tough because we had to have train new keepers. And Don came to work with ’em and Don and I had a very interesting relationship, ’cause as Don said, he’d never met anyone who had absolutely no mechanical ability at all until he met me, ’cause he would try to explain things to me and I would have no idea what he was talking about.
